Comments on: Coming To A Supermarket Near You http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/ Exercise, Nutrition, and Workout Articles Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:36:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: jrigwald http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46303 jrigwald Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:28:53 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46303 It is the governments business what garbage you put into your body if, in a few decades your hands will be held out straight asking for medicare to pay your medical bills. Not that there's many type II diabetics out there. Sheesh! Did you see the words "obesity prevention programs?" That includes any family you may have that aren't already fat. If you want to indulge in a soda every now and then it's not like you'll be broke tomorrow. The fatty's that drink a case of soda a day should subsidize there own future. Lord knows they are already taxing the system. I am a paramedic. Please let me inform you that it is an unusual day when we transport skinny people to the hospital with chest pain and shortness of breath. Add onto that they are on some sort of public health system already. Guess who pays for that... you and I do already. Tax the hell out of the fatty's if you ask me. It is the governments business what garbage you put into your body if, in a few decades your hands will be held out straight asking for medicare to pay your medical bills. Not that there's many type II diabetics out there. Sheesh! Did you see the words "obesity prevention programs?" That includes any family you may have that aren't already fat. If you want to indulge in a soda every now and then it's not like you'll be broke tomorrow. The fatty's that drink a case of soda a day should subsidize there own future. Lord knows they are already taxing the system. I am a paramedic. Please let me inform you that it is an unusual day when we transport skinny people to the hospital with chest pain and shortness of breath. Add onto that they are on some sort of public health system already. Guess who pays for that… you and I do already. Tax the hell out of the fatty's if you ask me.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46287 Matt Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:40:15 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46287 A friend of mine had a great idea regarding food stamps... make them only eligible for store brand foods or foods where no store brand exists and then embed a discount on healthy foods and a penalty on unhealthy stuff. Food stamps represent tax payer money already so I doubt those who support lower taxes would have a problem with the building in incentives toward healthy eating. Not to mention research suggests that lower income people are more likely to be obese because unhealthy food is so much cheaper than healthy food so this would simultaneously lower healthcare expenses. A friend of mine had a great idea regarding food stamps… make them only eligible for store brand foods or foods where no store brand exists and then embed a discount on healthy foods and a penalty on unhealthy stuff. Food stamps represent tax payer money already so I doubt those who support lower taxes would have a problem with the building in incentives toward healthy eating. Not to mention research suggests that lower income people are more likely to be obese because unhealthy food is so much cheaper than healthy food so this would simultaneously lower healthcare expenses.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46286 Matt Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:34:53 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46286 So long as their is a government there will be taxes that some agree with and others don't. I'd like to agree with it conceptually, but practically speaking the "big government needs to stay out of my home" line is complete rubbish. I bet that a lot of they people that claim they support minimal or no government intervention in their lives actually support at least one of the following in some shape or form: mortgage interest tax deduction, government support for student loans, research grants and/or fellowships, the proposed carbon tax and/or cap-and-trade, medicare/medicaid, speed limits, etc. All of these distort incentives and inevitably result in a segment of the population pursuing its own self-interest at a cost to some other segment of the population. So long as their is a government there will be taxes that some agree with and others don't. I'd like to agree with it conceptually, but practically speaking the "big government needs to stay out of my home" line is complete rubbish. I bet that a lot of they people that claim they support minimal or no government intervention in their lives actually support at least one of the following in some shape or form: mortgage interest tax deduction, government support for student loans, research grants and/or fellowships, the proposed carbon tax and/or cap-and-trade, medicare/medicaid, speed limits, etc. All of these distort incentives and inevitably result in a segment of the population pursuing its own self-interest at a cost to some other segment of the population.

]]> By: ashley http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46285 ashley Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:49:01 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46285 THANK YOU! Finally someone who gets it! Amen! Let's try and keep the freedoms we still have, shall we? :) THANK YOU! Finally someone who gets it! Amen!
Let's try and keep the freedoms we still have, shall we? :)

]]> By: ashley http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46284 ashley Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:47:17 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46284 I totally agree with you that our government is out of control, and taxing the hell out of people can not and WILL NOT fix it. I just wanted to add that in addition to creating an unnecessay tax, we would simply be giving the government MORE control over our daily lives. It is none of uncle sam's business what I choose to eat, drink, buy etc. I totally agree with you that our government is out of control, and taxing the hell out of people can not and WILL NOT fix it. I just wanted to add that in addition to creating an unnecessay tax, we would simply be giving the government MORE control over our daily lives. It is none of uncle sam's business what I choose to eat, drink, buy etc.

]]> By: olivececile http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46268 olivececile Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:26:54 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46268 I agree - certainly blueberries are healthier than cookies, but is Fiber One Cereal healthier than Special K? Grilled chicken is better than honey roasted, but how much better? Another value would be for foods that claim healthfulness, like frozen meals and baked potato chips. It would be nice to get an overall sense of the truth of those claims. However, the danger (for me, anyway) would be in choosing healthy foods but not varied foods. Can't live on blueberries, and I always have to remind myself to get protein and calcium. I agree – certainly blueberries are healthier than cookies, but is Fiber One Cereal healthier than Special K? Grilled chicken is better than honey roasted, but how much better? Another value would be for foods that claim healthfulness, like frozen meals and baked potato chips. It would be nice to get an overall sense of the truth of those claims.

However, the danger (for me, anyway) would be in choosing healthy foods but not varied foods. Can't live on blueberries, and I always have to remind myself to get protein and calcium.

]]> By: ljm http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46068 ljm Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:38:21 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46068 Right on. And as everybody complains about taxing sugary food remember we are essentially doing that to healthy foods by subsidizing corn and wheat (which in turn gets mutilated into a high fructose syrup or bleached nutrition less white bread)...Subsidizing fruit and vegetables to be sold in their natural state is the way to go...or maybe create a 'processing' tax. Try going to the grocery story and compare what $10 will buy in whole grain bread, fruits and veggies vs white bread, twinkies and chips. I'm pretty sick of paying higher insurance rates for the vast majority of my fellow citizens inability to eat somewhat healthy. Right on.
And as everybody complains about taxing sugary food remember we are essentially doing that to healthy foods by subsidizing corn and wheat (which in turn gets mutilated into a high fructose syrup or bleached nutrition less white bread)…Subsidizing fruit and vegetables to be sold in their natural state is the way to go…or maybe create a 'processing' tax. Try going to the grocery story and compare what $10 will buy in whole grain bread, fruits and veggies vs white bread, twinkies and chips.
I'm pretty sick of paying higher insurance rates for the vast majority of my fellow citizens inability to eat somewhat healthy.

]]> By: cmadler http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-46067 cmadler Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:33:15 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-46067 I'm skeptical of producer subsidies on "healthy" foods. Don't forget that corn, a reasonably healthy food in and of itself, when subsidized, gave rise to HFCS. Any such subsidy needs to be limited to foods that are sold to consumers with little or no processing. Otherwise we'll end up with High Fructose Blueberry Syrup in everything. I’m skeptical of producer subsidies on “healthy” foods. Don’t forget that corn, a reasonably healthy food in and of itself, when subsidized, gave rise to HFCS. Any such subsidy needs to be limited to foods that are sold to consumers with little or no processing. Otherwise we’ll end up with High Fructose Blueberry Syrup in everything.

]]> By: Shawn http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-45904 Shawn Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:07:49 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-45904 Sorry angie...while cigarette purchases may have gone down in ny, they went up in nj. extra taxation merely increases illegal means of obtaining...and there has been an increase of "cig runners" purchasing cigarettes over the border and bringing them into the city to sell at a reduced price. Sorry angie…while cigarette purchases may have gone down in ny, they went up in nj.

extra taxation merely increases illegal means of obtaining…and there has been an increase of "cig runners" purchasing cigarettes over the border and bringing them into the city to sell at a reduced price.

]]> By: Shawn http://blog.dailyburn.com/coming-to-a-supermarket-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-45903 Shawn Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:05:36 +0000 http://blog.gyminee.com/?p=1028#comment-45903 umm...or we could just get the government out of the insurance mandating business altogether, and let insurance companies charge you based on your risk, and then let people choose to eat whatever they want. that's a great, effective way to incentiveize healthy eating, and allow individuals to choose not to do so, if they happen to want to eat a bucket of ice cream a day. freedom means freedom to make bad decisions. adding another layer of governmental oversight is outright foolishness, and naive. providing information for people to make their own choices is fine, so long as tax dollars are not being spent to do so (I personally don't care about these numbers, and don't want to have to pay to provide them for people whose parents either didn't care or were too foolish to give them a general knowledge of what constitutes a 'healthy' food, and should not be forced by gunpoint to pay for this parental failing). the justification for extra taxation falls apart when one realizes that it is government interaction that has caused the obesity externalities that one must now pay for via poor-food-choice-premium-subsidization. umm…or we could just get the government out of the insurance mandating business altogether, and let insurance companies charge you based on your risk, and then let people choose to eat whatever they want.

that's a great, effective way to incentiveize healthy eating, and allow individuals to choose not to do so, if they happen to want to eat a bucket of ice cream a day. freedom means freedom to make bad decisions.

adding another layer of governmental oversight is outright foolishness, and naive. providing information for people to make their own choices is fine, so long as tax dollars are not being spent to do so (I personally don't care about these numbers, and don't want to have to pay to provide them for people whose parents either didn't care or were too foolish to give them a general knowledge of what constitutes a 'healthy' food, and should not be forced by gunpoint to pay for this parental failing).

the justification for extra taxation falls apart when one realizes that it is government interaction that has caused the obesity externalities that one must now pay for via poor-food-choice-premium-subsidization.

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